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Religion Answered

Okay, so i see religion seems to be a hit here. while I've tried not to add to this irrelevant subject, i think its time the world heard my views.

Religion is another form of government with each sector having its own capital, rules, leaders, and history.
it is one of the three "G's" by which all wars are fought. (God, Ground, Gold). it holds billions of people fixated on a singularity, a possibility that with proper deduction can be reasoned.
While no self respecting Scholar of God (and i mean god of any religion) will denounce his faith, its a quite perplexing subject, for both the religious and secular Humans. In order to truly understand it, you must first examine yourself, leaving aside any beliefs instilled in you. When you feel yourself free from prejudice, open your minds eye to the world around you. everyone has one, and everyone knows how to use it. examine the facts that you already know to be true with those not yet proven by anyone. Please don't misinterpret this post as me siding with anybody. I merely want you to use Deductive reasoning to make your own decisions.

there are a few questions you can ask yourself that may help you in your quest.

1) Is the juice worth the squeeze?
if any religion is right, death brings about great rewards(or penalties) in the afterlife.
if science is right, than were just going to die. (gloomy, i know)
whichever the case, ask yourself if the effort your putting in is really worth your TIME. (I capitalize time because it is only a concept, an invention much like those on this site. learn to live without it and life will be so much more rewarding. )
if you just die, than "...all (your) yesterdays will (light) fools a way to dusty death"- shakespear
2) Do you believe everything in your Book (bible, quran,etc.)?
if you question even one, than there are definitely more you havent gotten to yet.
3) Do you trust your fate to another human?
Some Religious leaders are corrupt in every sense of the word. Make a decision.

there are plenty more, of which i do not have time to post, but that should be enough topic to discuss for now. I will return later to answer questions and delve a bit deeper.

Just remember, "the absence of knowledge is the absence of existence" -Nick Disney (Me!!!!)


im slightly offended by the fact that you question my faith

meh, dont let it offend you. have you ever heard the saying "to each, his own"? if he wants to believe its a hoax, let him. when its all over we will see whos right and whos wrong.

i guess you right

This is an old one, I guess you're lucky the author is still around..


The only thing worse than a religion topic is an old bumped one. -_- Honestly I don't know what people think they are accomplishing by all this trolling.

I think they may just have hit it on a search. "we" should delete our old stuff I think? L

Yeah, probably. I just wish they'd stop trolling period, it's one dead horse that has been flogged so hard there's nothing left of it, it's an imaginary horse now, but they just won't put their whips down.

I'm more bothered that the people who tend to support these threads are rather narrow-minded. It's often just reaction by people who feel vulnerable or otherwise threatened (recent example above). Some high-level thinking or insight generally washes over people and they don't think/change. E.g. Jesus would hate this sort of thing, ~~2 min~~ 10 sec and he'd be back on the street and off to the public places...? L

 assuming he was really as magical as everyone seems to think he was...

 education, my dear friend. when a collective conscience ponders a single topic, and combined with a tool as powerful as the internet, a logical explination will come about. and for those questions that are not answered, more discussion will come about. believe me, our forefathers would have LOVED to read some of the topics floating around. even old ones.

Threads like these go back decades. "Nothing new under the sun". ;)

Maybe in the "good 'ol days" they led to Good Things (like intelligent discussion), but these days this kind of topic posted on a board just leads to flaming and trolling, thence to name-calling, ad hominem attacks, accusations of hypocrisy, yelling, the invocation of Godwin's law and much upset and hissy fits. Even the occasional ban.

But don't take my word for it. If the thread continues active, I guarantee it will happen sooner or later. (Though I'd like nothing more than to be proven wrong).

 the fact that you dont question it is why i bring the topic up

I have to question your final quote, not in a religious or philisophical sense, but in a physical and factual sense. There are some existances just waiting to become known. They don't come into being only when they are known, but rather were existing in an unknown state. Does that make sense? Or did I misinterpret the intent of the quote?

 when columbus set sail on the oceans, he didnt exist to the natives. in fact, even when they were on the horizon, they couldnt see them. they didnt know what ships were or even that there were pale people.it wasnt until someone noticed and educated the next that they existed. so in effect, the absence of knowledge is the abscence of existence. in an immediate sense, not knowing something even exists, means that, to you, it doesnt.

I completely and utterly agree with you.

You'd be better off adding something meaningful to one of the other Forum Topics, rather than opening up another area for the same. L

while I've tried not to add to this irrelevant subject, i think its time the world heard my views.

So why didn't you simply comment on one of the many topics already present, instead of trolling with a new topic?

"if science is right, than were just going to die" So cherish your life as your last, enjoy it, don't waste it away in hopes of another one. Also no afterlife can be pleasant, since it is ever lasting, it would be soooooooooooo freaking boring No, I even question my textbooks and teachers some times, mistakes happen, it is still important to recognize them Not sure on the third, who is sure about that one?